#409 How Do I Set Manageable Goals?

#409 How Do I Set Manageable Goals?

Kathi and Tonya Kubo, leader of Clutter Free Academy Facebook Group and Clutter Free for Life are here for Part 4 of the How Do I? Series. In this series, we have learned how to get unstuck from our clutter rut, how to get rid of the good stuff, and how to know where stuff goes. Now, in the perfect finale of this fab four series, we are learning how to set realistic and manageable goals. Friend, you do not have to feel like you’re the only one, and working towards your clutter goals doesn’t have to feel like such a burden. Let’s do this together! Listen in to gain perspective, better decision-making ability, and focus on:

  • Working the Program
  • Energy Management
  • Gentle Accountability

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Are you longing for a place of peace from which you can love others well? The Clutter-Free Home: Making Room for Your Life is your room-by-room guide to decluttering, reclaiming, and celebrating every space of your home.

In The Clutter-Free Home, you’ll walk through each room of your house to create organizational zones that are not only functional and practical but create places of peace that reflect your personality. Kathi will help you tackle the four-step process to reveal the home you’ve always dreamed of and then transform it into a haven that reflects who you truly are meant to be.

Get your copy of The Clutter-Free Home at kathilipp.com or on Amazon today.

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Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo is the illustrious and fearless leader of Kathi Lipp’s Clutter Free Academy Facebook group and the Clutter Free for Life membership program. A speaker and writer, Tonya makes her home in the heart of California with her husband, Brian, their two spirited daughters, and one very tolerant cat. Visit her at www.tonyakubo.com.

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#408: How Do I Know Where Stuff Goes?

#408: How Do I Know Where Stuff Goes?

This week, Kathi and fearless leader of the Clutter Free Academy Facebook Group and Clutter Free for Life, Tonya Kubo, are continuing the conversation in the How Do I? Series. Last week Kathi and Tonya talked about how to get rid of the good stuff. Today Tonya brings to the table the most frequently asked question: where do I put all the stuff? Join in the conversation as they teach us how to create the solutions that make the most sense and change our lives.

In this episode you will learn:

  • How to make life more simple
  • Reduce design fatigue
  • Make things work for you

Clutter-Free Home

Are you longing for a place of peace from which you can love others well? The Clutter-Free Home: Making Room for Your Life is your room-by-room guide to decluttering, reclaiming, and celebrating every space of your home.

In The Clutter-Free Home, you’ll walk through each room of your house to create organizational zones that are not only functional and practical but create places of peace that reflect your personality. Kathi will help you tackle the four-step process to reveal the home you’ve always dreamed of and then transform it into a haven that reflects who you truly are meant to be.

Order your copy of The Clutter-Free Home on Amazon today.

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GIVEAWAY TIME: Answer this question in the comments below for a chance to win The Get Yourself Organized Project: What is your biggest struggle in figuring out where to put things?

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Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo is the illustrious and fearless leader of Kathi Lipp’s Clutter Free Academy Facebook group and the Clutter Free for Life membership program. A speaker and writer, Tonya makes her home in the heart of California with her husband, Brian, their two spirited daughters, and one very tolerant cat. Visit her at www.tonyakubo.com

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Kathi – Well, hey friends. Welcome to Clutter Free Academy, where our goal is to help you take small, doable steps to live everyday with less clutter and more life. We’re in the midst of a series. It’s basically, “How do I?” I’ve got Tonya Kubo here, who’s our fearless leader over at Clutter Free Academy and Clutter Free for Life. Hey, Tonya!

Tonya – Hey, Kathi!

Kathi – So, she’s asking me the most frequently asked questions over at Clutter Free Academy. So, this is number three in the series, so let’s do it.

Tonya – So, this one is, “How do I know where stuff goes?”

Kathi – So, this isn’t the most frequently asked question at Clutter Free Academy. This is the most frequently asked question from Tonya Kubo.

Tonya – Maybe?

Kathi – So, go into this. Where’s the struggle?

Tonya – Other people ask it too. So, for me, I’m pretty honest with our listeners in that, I grew up in a studio apartment, with a mother who was a hoarder. So, when you live in 500 square feet, there’s not a lot of places for things. Then, when you live with a hoarder, there is stuff everywhere. I have lived in homes, since then, of varying sizes, but I really struggle with figuring out where things should go. What makes sense? So, I have a tendency to move things around a lot. Nothing ever seems quite right. Yet, when I go to other people’s houses, I don’t seem to have this problem.

Kathi – Okay, but you’re not trying to accomplish things in other people’s houses, for the most part.

Tonya – For the most part, but I can stay with somebody for a couple of days and go, “Oh, this is where the cups go. This makes sense.”

Kathi – And you’ve stayed here at The Red House quite a bit. You’re able to find your way around here. So, have you ever worked in a restaurant?

Tonya – Just in the front of the house.

Kathi – So I align a well-organized house with a well-organized kitchen. The flour always goes in the same place, but it’s figuring out where that goes. Here’s what I know about cluttery people. We are creative, so we’re always trying…

Tonya – To recreate the wheel.

Kathi – Yes. We always want to do something new. We always want to be innovators. We want to come up with the solution that makes the most sense and is going to change our lives. We’re the people who buy the air fryers, even though we don’t really know what they do. We do all those things. So, we tend to not want to stick with a system, ‘cause we’re always trying to find the short cut; the easy way. That kind of thing. So, I want to talk a little bit about ‘how do we do this?’ So, when you were struggling with “Where does something go?” my first question is, “Where will it be used?” We just talked about oil, so explain that.

Tonya – So, I lived in an older home, so I have some cabinets, but I don’t have a pantry, so we bought a pantry. But the only place for the pantry is clear across the kitchen. Almost not in the kitchen any more. In my brain, all the food belongs in the pantry. That’s where food goes. But that’s 20 steps, 30 steps away from where I cook.

Kathi – Let’s also say, you are on DEFCON 3 right now, when it comes to cooking. Explain that.

Tonya – So, I have a daughter with food allergies, so we have to cook 90% from scratch.

Kathi – Roger would starve. I’m just going to let you know. If I had to cook 95% of my stuff from scratch, it would be bad around here.

Tonya – We’ve all lost a little bit of weight. Not going to lie. We’re working on it. Part of it is a space thing. If I buy oils at Costco, they’re too tall to fit in the cabinet that’s by the stove. So, I’m doing a lot of back and forth. I’m grabbing a lot of specialty flours, a lot of specialty oils. I do have a lot more stuff in my kitchen than I’m used to.

Kathi – I’m on a new eating plan, too. First of all, the stuff is expensive, and there’s a lot of it.

Tonya – Amen.

Kathi – A couple of things. One of the questions I like to ask is, “Where will it be used?” Yes, it’s in your kitchen, but it’s not convenient. I’ll tell you, I’ve had my own issues with oils. Because we have a lot of people here at The Red House, we buy the Costco olive oil. First of all, there’s no place for it in my kitchen. Also, the Costco one costs as much as the Safeway one, but it’s ten times as big. So, one of the things I’ve done is, I’ve got a little place. I’ve got a few oils in my kitchen, but what I’ve done is, I’ve got a squeeze bottle for that oil. First of all, I love using a squeeze bottle for my oil. That makes all the difference in the world. I’m putting it in a smaller container that works for me. Now, I don’t care that I store my oil out in the garage. Why are you laughing hysterically?

Tonya – Kathi, this is the perfect illustration of the challenge of most of us with clutter. It has never occurred to me that I could put something in a container different than the container I bought it in.

Kathi – Fascinating.

Tonya – It’s like, if I buy the oil at Costco, it has to stay in the Costco container. So, frequently, I will spend the money to buy the tiny little Safeway one, because that fits in my cabinet. The idea that there’s someplace that sell squeeze bottles never crossed my mind.

Kathi – Amazon. I’ll put the link in here.

Tonya – I’m not trying to be ridiculous. I promise I’m not overplaying this. This is not rehearsed. This is the truth.

Kathi – No today, when you were saying “What’s in your see through container?” I’m like, “Oh, that’s the shake you gave me.” You were like, “Oh. I’ve never taken it out of its container.”

Tonya – Do you know how annoyed I get with all those resealable zipper bags that have to sit on the top and they’re ugly and they fall over and they spill powder on your head? It has never occurred to me that I can put them in a different container.

Kathi – That’s so interesting. The oil thing has been new for me within the past five years.

Tonya – You’ve changed my life. I want to type this out, but I’m trying to be focused on the conversation.

Kathi – So I need the right size, right where I am, doing the thing. So, I have oil, salt, and pepper right where I need it to be, but the refills are in an inconvenient location, but they’re not as inconvenient as Costco. So, that’s how I like to think about it. I don’t have to keep all those giant containers within reach, but I will have everything I need within reach.

Tonya – Okay.

Kathi – Yay! I’m glad I could change your life.

Tonya – I’m stupefied.

Kathi – Here’s the other thing. When you are in the middle of cooking, and you’re like, “The thing that I need is not here.” Think about, “Is there somewhere I could put this so it would be right here?” I love a little tray that I can put my oil, my salt, my pepper, that kind of thing on, so it looks cute in my kitchen, but it’s not the giant thing.  So, I think about it that way. The dog collar. Where do you keep the dog collar? We have a special dog collar because Moose is a runner and we have 32 acres.

Tonya – That’s a lot of running.

Kathi – Please do not call the SPCA. We have a buzz collar. We have never buzzed her once, but it makes a little beeping sound when we say, “We want you to come back.” So, we have a little bowl where we keep our keys and our buzz collar, so we know where it’s at all the time. I also have little jars of treats around the house, because we’re trying to train her. So, it’s like, “Where do you keep the treats?” Well, I have a treat bucket that’s put away, but I have little containers of treats throughout the house in cute little containers, so things are where we use them. That’s my most important criteria.

Tonya – Right. So, we’re here at The Red House together, and I’m just looking around your kitchen as we’re talking. You have dishtowels. Now, I remember, this was one of those life-changing things for me, the first time I came here. You have a basket, to the left of your stove that has all your dishtowels. Often times, you’re at the stove and you get your hands dirty and you need to wipe them off. Now, you could keep those in a drawer across the way, but then what mess would you make?

Kathi – Most times, I keep a dishtowel on the oven, so it’s right there. I also keep all of our hot pads and that.

Tonya – Yeah. Potholders. Everything is right there, where you would typically need to use it.

Kathi – Right. So, I try to keep things right where I’ll use them, then, the backups are in the inconvenient locations. Either our pantry, which is in our laundry room, or we have a bigger pantry in the garage. Like we said, we have retreats here and if we get snowed in? We always have to have two weeks’ worth of food here. It’s not even an option.

Tonya – That’s just your reality.

Kathi – Okay, so the first question is: Where will it be used? With the asterisk of, “You can put it in a smaller container.” That’s okay. The second question is: Where is my first impulse to find it? So, where would I go looking for the salt? Where would I go looking for my blue jacket? Where would I go looking for the extra garbage bags? So, the garbage bags, for a long time, I kept them in a pull out drawer underneath our stairs. But I realized I used them in the sink, so I have now moved them over to the sink. It takes me about a year to really figure out a house. I haven’t spent a year here, yet. We’ve only spent portions of a year. You are allowed to make the house work for you. I think some people find it surprising that we have all of our glasses over on a different wall in our kitchen than right by the sink, or right by the fridge. Here’s the thing: I keep two mugs and two glasses right conveniently located for me and Roger. That’s all that lives here 90% of the time. Then, I keep the bulk of them someplace else. It seems a little weird, but the first place I would look is in the cupboard by the sink. That’s where we keep a lot of our short term things. So think about, “Where would be my first impulse to look for scissors?”, “Where would be my first impulse to look for my glasses?” those kind of things. Then, my third point, and I think that this really important: Label everything. So, make it a giant kindergarten room. I’ve got labels on the insides of all my cupboards, so that people know where things are. Now, there will be some people in your family, (you know I love him, Roger) who it doesn’t matter that I’ve had the scissors in the same place in this house since we bought it. I’ve had a label there that says, “Scissors”. Every day I get asked where the scissors are. I love him deeply. So, you label things. Here’s the thing: If you don’t want to label it, ‘cause “I’m not 100% sure this is where it’s going to go until Jesus comes back.” I want you to label it anyway. Labels are cheap. You can pull it off and you can move that label someplace else, if you decide that you need to do it.

Tonya – So, really, what you’re saying is, I could make the wrong choice.

Kathi – I want you to make the wrong choice. About 25% of your choices are going to be wrong and I want you to have the freedom to say, “This didn’t work. I’m going to go try something else.”

Tonya – I’m just going to believe you on that one.

Kathi – One hundred percent. This is how I did it the entire time the kids were growing up. “I’m going to try something here. I’m going to commit to it for a month…two months.” But if I’m like, “Oh, no. It shouldn’t be here, it should be over here.” I can only make that decision after I’ve committed to that one spot. You don’t believe me.

Tonya – No. What you don’t realize is that my whole life is playing like a movie in my brain right now. So, I’m going, “Oh, Abby, who’s five, would love that, because that fits with how her classroom is organized at school.”

Kathi – Right. Exactly.

Tonya – Abby is a systems person. It’s very hard for her when things are different, in different locations. It’s hard to have different rules at home than there are at school. It’s hard to have different organization systems at home than there is at school. So, I think of how much she would appreciate having a label, even if she can’t read. I can put a picture, right?

Kathi – You can put a picture.

Tonya – And she would know where things went.

Kathi – Right. I think that is so important for kids to have a sense of stability in their house. It’s important for adults, too. One of things we just did: On top of our fridge we have this bowl. It’s got tomatoes on it, and peppers and everything. It’s a big bowl. For a long time, what was making me lose my Jesus on a regular basis is, we’d go to Costco. We’d buy the thin pretzels. Roger would take some thin pretzels, then I had the backup bag, ‘cause we were having people over, so we had the backup bag. He would open the fresh bag while the other one still had 3/4ths of the content in it. Nothing makes Jesus weep more than two open bags. So now, when a bag gets opened, it goes on top of the fridge.

Tonya – So now you know where the open bag is.

Kathi – I know where the open bag is. Roger knows where the open bag is. Now the world knows where the open bag is.

Tonya – It’s on top of the fridge, guys.

Kathi – Right, so you better check the top of the fridge before you go opening a brand new bag. It’s just simpler to have those systems in place so it reduces our decision fatigue. If I know the scissors go in the same place in the drawer, I don’t have to decide every day “Where is the best place for the scissors?” The best place for the scissors is the place where we’ve designated. We can do that every single time. I don’t have to reinvent the wheel every single day.

Tonya – Alright. This is good.

Kathi – So, guys, to recap. One, figure out where it will be used. You can do smaller containers. You can do whatever is going to make it work for you. Number two: Where’s my first impulse to find the thing? Number three: Put it in the wrong place. You get to make the decisions, even if they are bad decisions. If you don’t decide, you can’t change the decision. If you make a decision, you can change a decision.

Tonya – I like that.

Kathi – Okay, so I want to know what our listeners’ biggest struggles is where to put things. Is it kitchen items? Is it office supplies? For two of you, we’re going to send you a copy. We’re going to randomly choose from those comments and we’re going to send you a copy of the Get Yourself Organized Project. That’ll be fun. Some people do not have that book. We want them to have that book, because it helps you with all those systems. Tonya, thank you for asking the good questions.

Tonya – Well, thank you for answering the good questions.

Kathi – I can change your life. I love that.

Tonya – Is it rude to just pull up Amazon right now?

Kathi – No, I think you can do that. We will put that in the comments, and we’ll put it with an affiliate code, so a little bit of that money goes to support this podcast. People have asked how they can support the podcast. Clicking on the affiliate links really helps. Guys, thanks for joining us. You’ve been listening to Clutter Free Academy. I’m Kathi Lipp. Now, go create the clutter free life you were always intended to live.

#407: How Do I Get Rid of the Good Stuff?

#407: How Do I Get Rid of the Good Stuff?

Do you want to enjoy decluttered spaces but aren’t sure just how to get rid of the good stuff? Well, friends Kathi and our very own Tonya Kubo, leader of the Clutter Free Academy Facebook Group, are here to help! Last week, we learned about getting unstuck from your clutter rut. Tonya is asking all the hard questions in this series, and Kathi is bringing the wisdom from her experience and her new book The Clutter-Free Home.

In this episode, you will discover:

  • What’s the objective
  • What’s the priority
  • Understanding the focus

Clutter-Free Home

Are you longing for a place of peace from which you can love others well? The Clutter-Free Home: Making Room for Your Life is your room-by-room guide to decluttering, reclaiming, and celebrating every space of your home.

In The Clutter-Free Home, you’ll walk through each room of your house to create organizational zones that are not only functional and practical but create places of peace that reflect your personality. Kathi will help you tackle the four-step process to reveal the home you’ve always dreamed of and then transform it into a haven that reflects who you truly are meant to be.

Pre-order your copy of The Clutter-Free Home on Amazon today.

 

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Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo is the illustrious and fearless leader of Kathi Lipp’s Clutter Free Academy Facebook group and the Clutter Free for Life membership program. A speaker and writer, Tonya makes her home in the heart of California with her husband, Brian, their two spirited daughters, and one very tolerant cat. Visit her at www.tonyakubo.com

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Clutter Free Academy Podcast # 407

 

How Do I Get Rid of Good Stuff?

 

 

<<intro music>>

 

Kathi – Well, hey friends. Welcome to Clutter Free Academy, where our goal is to help you take small, doable steps to live everyday with less clutter and more life. We’re in the midst of a really fun series right now. In order to put me on the spot, put me in the hot seat, we have our very own Tonya Kubo. Hey, Tonya.

 

Tonya – Hey, Kathi.

 

Kathi – So, you’re asking me all the hard questions.

 

Tonya – Yes, and it’s so much fun.

 

Kathi – Okay, good. I’m glad you’re enjoying it. So, this is our second in the series. What is the hard question you get from all of our friends over at Clutter Free Academy?

 

Tonya – How Do I Get Rid of the Good Stuff?

 

Kathi – Okay, so what does that mean? Because, if you want to get rid of it, how good can it be?

 

Tonya – Well, you know us cluttery people, right?

 

Kathi – I do. I’m one of you.

 

Tonya – You know, we see these things, and it’s like, “It’s too nice to give away. It’s too nice to throw away. I could make money off of this.” Right? Let me give you a few real life examples from our Clutter Free Academy community. So, there’s homeschooling curriculum.

 

Kathi – Oh my, goodness. Yes.

 

Tonya – That stuff’s expensive.

 

Kathi – It is expensive.

 

Tonya – Then there is art supplies, craft supplies. That stuff isn’t cheap, either.

 

Kathi – No, it’s not.

 

Tonya – The Cricut? That is a pricy piece of equipment

 

Kathi – I just bought that for my daughter for Christmas this past year.

 

Tonya – So, you can appreciate that money does not grow on trees. That things is a little bit of a chunk of somebody’s wallet. Then there’s the stuff for the kids. You know? There is the sugar cube machine kits. Those are not cheap.

 

Kathi – Right! But haven’t you used that?

 

Tonya – There’s always the buy one get one free. You’ve got little kids, and you’re like, “Should I hold on to that for five years?” Should you sell it on a Facebook group? Should you eBay it? Do you put it in a yard sale? There’s so many things that are just too good. The dishes that aren’t practical, and let’s just be honest, this is a personal example. I had really nice, really expensive dishes I got for my wedding. It never occurred to me to pay attention to the dinner plate measurements and my cupboard measurements.

 

Kathi – Well, who would?

 

Tonya – Yeah, so there was this two inch overhang, so my cupboards never closed. But they were expensive!

 

Kathi – Also, were they everyday dishes, or were they just when the Queen came to visit?

 

Tonya – No, they were everyday dishes.

 

Kathi – Oh, okay, good.

 

Tonya – But you need to keep them to remind myself how dumb I was to not check the dimensions.

 

Kathi – Who does that even occur to? Who makes dishes that can’t fit into cupboards? I don’t even understand.

 

Tonya – So those are some real life examples.

 

Kathi – So this is going to be the most unhelpful statement ever, but let me expound upon it. It’s up to each person. Here’s what I mean by that. There are some people who are great at garage sales. There are some people who are great at selling stuff online. If you have tried to do that and you know you’re not good at it. Like, you forget to mail the things after people paid you? That’s not good. You set up for a garage sale and you make $92. $92 isn’t bad, but is it worth a whole day to you? For some people, it is. When I was a sales rep, I worked for a candle company. I would go put candles in all these drug stores and everything like that. Sometimes they would start to get faded or something like that. So, I would take those back, and I was allowed to sell them. I had to mark them so they couldn’t be taken back to the store, but I had a garage sale where I made a thousand dollars. So, would I tell anybody, “No, you shouldn’t have a garage sale.”? No, absolutely not. We really needed that thousand dollars. But, is a garage sale the right solution for everybody? So, if you’re super broke and you have some good stuff that is garage sale appropriate? So, kids’ clothes that are in good condition. Kids’ toys. Things like that. Maybe some furniture. I think garage sales are great for changes in life. You’ve moved someplace, or you’re going to move some place and you need to get rid of a bunch of stuff. Or, your kids have outgrown all the stuff. I did a garage sale when I went through a divorce because I needed money then. I think garage sales are great for changes in life. Now, if you have enough stuff for a good garage sale every year, I think you have a problem. I think you are buying too much stuff, probably. At a garage sale, you’re going to recoup, maybe, 10% of what you bought.

 

Tonya – If you’re lucky.

 

Kathi – If you’re lucky. So, I think you have to know what you’re good at. There are people who are great at finding things at a thrift store and selling them on Facebook, but let me ask you. What is your objective? Is your objective to start a business, or is your objective to get clutter free? If your objective is to get clutter free, let me gently help you consider that most of your stuff should be given away. I really think that, for most of us, depending on the financial situation we’re in, we need to get rid of stuff so that, one: we have more room in our houses. We know that clutter equals depression and we don’t want that for our members here. Also, I just think that there’s a lot of time and energy that goes into selling. There are people who do it really well, but then there’s the rest of us. So, we do a lot of things on Freecycle. Here is the thing. The good stuff we’ve given away, we’ve given away to people in need. People who are on Freecycle aren’t just looking for bargains. They’re looking for furniture for their kids. These are single moms, oftentimes. We’ve given away some really good stuff. Even if it’d recouped 25% of that cost, I’d rather give it to the person who absolutely needs it. So, to think about it that way helps me. You look skeptical.

 

Tonya – I’m just thinking of my own personal experiences. Since we’ve been on this clutter free journey, we did not have much disposable income when we started. Life is very different for us now, but even back then, Brian and I had a really long conversation. What is the priority? The priority, at that time, was space in our home. This wasn’t from me. I was still stuck in fear, guilt and shame related to clutter that I couldn’t see it, but he was the one who had the wisdom to say, “We just have to trust God. We have to have the faith that if we release this stuff, somehow, somewhere it’s all going to come back. When we need it, we’re going to have it.” We have released so much stuff out into the world in the last five or six years. There’s never been a time where I was like, “Oh, I should have kept that third Crockpot.”

 

Kathi – Right. Exactly.

 

Tonya – “Oh, that blender!” Even at the beginning. We got rid of a lot of baby stuff that was still in the packaging. It was something we really needed and then the age just never worked out. We looked at the brand and we couldn’t really remember what store it came from to see if it’s still returnable. I’m part of a MOPS group so I was like, “Does anyone need this one thing? It’s still in the boxes.” I remember somebody from our church reached out to me and said, “Hey. Do you still have that stuff?” They were looking for the booster seat. They were looking for the swing. They were looking for a high chair. I was like, “I still have that stuff and one thing’s been out of the box, blah blah blah.” Met them in a parking lot. It was like, their sister whose daughter just had a baby and it was all this stuff. They were like, “What do you want for it?” And I’m like, “This is the thing: I don’t clean it. I don’t take money for it.”

 

Kathi – Right. Exactly.

 

Tonya – She was like, “Yeah, but you saved me a trip to the store.” And she gave me cash. It wasn’t expected, but you know what? It was the exact number that I needed right then and there. It always works out for me. So, I always appreciate when people say, “I need the money.”

 

Kathi – Absolutely. If you need the money and you’re good at it? Here’s what I think a lot of times happens. We spend the money, then we feel guilty about the money we spent on the new thing, so we try to recoup it with the old thing. That economy just doesn’t work out. Yes, a car. You know what? I want you to get money for a car. A house? I want you to get money for your house. There are certain baby items that are very expensive, but if you’re trying to recoup on an Old Navy t-shirt for your three year old? I just think your time is worth more than that. Again, if you are financially strapped (and I have been that person at times) I don’t know that selling your stuff is the best use of your time. Could you be doing something else? Could you be cutting back on other expenses? The time it takes to sell something, unless you have a knack for that, I don’t think you’re ever going to recoup. I would rather, instead of you ordering out a pizza, you make one from scratch; you learn how to do that. ‘Cause once you learn to make a pizza from scratch, you know how to do it for the rest of your life. That saves you $15-20 every Friday night as a treat for your kids. It’s a different perspective. Again, maybe you have a friend who’s a whiz at selling stuff online. Find that person. If your child has just grown out of all their 2T-4T things and you have one of those baby resale things? They’re very picky, so make sure things are in excellent condition, but don’t keep stuff around forever thinking that someday you’ll be able to resell it. Resell it as soon as you’re done with it, but understand your focus. Are you trying to reclaim space or are you trying to reclaim money?

 

Tonya – I think that’s huge. I think for most of us, we want the space and I’m going to take us briefly off track. We want the space, but we feel guilty about that. We feel like it’s decadent to choose space over cash.

 

Kathi – So let me ask you this: Can you, and I’m not asking Tonya this, I’m asking the listener. Can you trust God that that thing was in your hand for you to use in that time and space, and that somebody else needs it, and that God can get it into the right hands? That’s how I have to look at it. The other question is: If you’re objective is to get rid of stuff, I want you to do it in the fastest way possible. I think us cluttery people come up with a million reasons why we can’t get rid of the thing. “I don’t want to give it to Good Will because x amount of money goes to their CEO and I’d rather give it to charity.” So, it sits in your car until the charity that’s open from 2-3 on Tuesdays lines up on your schedule. I want you to get that out of your house. You know what? A lot of good has been done through Good Will, so I would love for you to be able to get rid of something. The main objective is to get it out of your house so you can reclaim that space. Now, if your objective is to make money, find out what other people have done with similar items. If you’re part of MOPS, find out what other people have done with their baby stuff. If you are getting rid of books, what have other people done? Go to the experts. I’ve got rid of a lot of things on Nextdoor which is an app. A lot of people charge for that stuff. We tend to just give things away for free, because we’re like, “We’ve got a deadline. We want to get this out of our house.” But I have to tell you, except for one encounter, we’ve always had delightful encounters from people Nextdoor who were so appreciative. So, I love that. Figure out what your objective is. If it’s to make money, find somebody who’s doing it well and learn from them. I think that is what’s going to help you be able to focus in a way that’s going to help you. If you need to bring money in right now? Know that, but know that you can’t have that be your goal and decluttering at the same time.

 

Tonya – I think that’s fair. It’s fair. It’s reasonable. I get, for our listeners, it makes a lot of sense. It’s a competing priority.

 

Kathi – It is, and that’s okay to understand that. Maybe there’s a room in your house. If you’ve got extra space, you can do this. That’s wonderful. My garage was 90% candles at one point. You know what? At the time, my priority, even though I was super cluttery, was “We need to make money. We need to make our mortgage.” ‘Cause my husband was unemployed. So, huzzah! We were able to do that. So, no judgement, but if you’re part of Clutter Free Academy, my guess is, you want to get rid of clutter. You guys have all heard my tennis shoes story, where we went to Good Will looking for tennis shoes for Justin, and there was a brand new pair there. They just happened to fit him, and I just think, “I’m just so grateful to the person who says, ‘I can get rid of these, even with the tags on them, because I know somebody else can use them.’” What a gift that was to me. So, I may be a little prejudice here, but that’s my goal.

 

Tonya – I think that’s great. Well, thank you for addressing this question because I think that it’s tough. It’s tough to feel like you have the right to free space to the point where it’s okay to get rid of nice things.

 

Kathi – Yeah. Just having been the recipient of nice things, when I had no money to buy nice things? I’m so grateful for people who are in that position. I’ve been the person who, somebody lent me shoes for a bridesmaid’s dress. They happened to be the same size and style. It was a miracle. I’ve been that recipient, so I’m really grateful for those people. But there’s no shame in saying, “I need the money right now and I have to wait on the decluttering.” Declutter other stuff, then. Stuff that you don’t need that won’t bring in money. Well, friends, we are so grateful that you’ve been with us today. I would love for you to tell me in the comments, right now, what is more important? The money or the space? I think that would be very interesting. Also, for two of you, we’re going to pick from those comments, and we’re going to give you a copy of my new book, The Clutter Free Home. So, I’ll be anxious to hear, where our people land on all of that.

 

Tonya – I love this.

 

Kathi – You guys, you’ve been listening to Clutter Free Academy. I’m Kathi Lipp. I’ve been here with Tonya Kubo. Now, go create the clutter free life you were always intended to live.

 

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#406: How do I Get Unstuck from My Clutter Rut?

#406: How do I Get Unstuck from My Clutter Rut?

Join in the excitement as Kathi and Tonya Kubo, leader of the Clutter Free Academy Facebook Group, teach us how to get unstuck from a clutter rut in the brand new How Do I? Series. Let’s learn how to do these things together, friends! We want to give you some tools to use right now, teach you how to be kind to yourself and just start where you are. So many times we get stuck in a rut because we are living in the past or the future. But we can discover together:

  • Why are we stuck in a clutter rut?
  • How do we actually get unstuck?
  • What is our freedom reason?

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Signs of Depression: https://www.christiantoday.com/article/5-warning-signs-of-depression/108535.htm

Bible Verses for depression: https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/depression-bible-verses/

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Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo is the illustrious and fearless leader of Kathi Lipp’s Clutter Free Academy Facebook group and the Clutter Free for Life membership program. A speaker and writer, Tonya makes her home in the heart of California with her husband, Brian, their two spirited daughters, and one very tolerant cat. Visit her at www.tonyakubo.com.

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Clutter Free Academy Podcast # 406

 

How Do I Get Unstuck?

 

 

 

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Kathi – Well, hey friends. Welcome to Clutter Free Academy, where our goal is to help you take small, doable steps to live every day with less clutter but more life. I am here today with Tonya Kubo, leader at Clutter Free Academy. Hey, Tonya. How you doing today?

 

Tonya – Hey, Kathi. I’m doing great. How about you?

 

Kathi – I am excited.

 

Tonya – Oooh. Tell me more.

 

Kathi – Well, because I love this series that we’re doing. I love this series, talking about “How do I…?” We get these questions all the time. “How do I do this?” “How do we do that?”  So, the question for today is, and I love this question. “How do I get unstuck from my clutter rut?”

 

Tonya – Oooh.

 

Kathi – Yeah, right? We get a lot of people who ask that. Here’s what I want to do. I want to talk about, “How do we actually get unstuck?”, but first I want to talk about, “Why are we in a clutter rut?” Tonya, you and I have both been in a clutter rut.

 

Tonya – Oh yes.

 

Kathi – What would you say was your biggest clutter rut? Do you remember?

 

Tonya – Are we talking circumstances?

 

Kathi – Yeah.

 

Tonya – Well, I’d say my biggest clutter rut has typically been when I’ve been sick. Something has happened and my routines have fallen by the wayside and I just can’t see my way back to start.

 

Kathi – Yeah. That makes total sense. I think for me, it’s been during really hard periods of my life. As you know, tough first marriage. When I was getting to the end of that, the clutter was just huge. I was having to make so many personal decisions that one more clutter decision was just too much. It was just too much. I think that was really tough for me. So, I want to talk about three ways where I feel like it’s very easy for us to become overwhelmed; why we get into these clutter ruts. The first thing is, overwhelmed personally. So what I mean by that is, maybe the clutter has built up for a long time and you’re just in a place where you can’t make more decisions. Decision fatigue is a real thing.

 

Tonya – It is.

 

Kathi – I don’t think people give that the weight that it deserves. Especially, if you’ve been making decisions for little people all day? Or maybe you’ve been making decisions at work all day and now I’m telling you to come home and declutter, which is more decisions? It feels completely overwhelming. So, maybe those personal circumstances are just, it’s every room in your house, or it’s not just yours, it’s your parents, or your kids, or something like that. That can be one of the reasons where you just feel like, “Yep. I am overwhelmed.” Another one is overwhelmed by life’s circumstances. This is where I remember, I just shut down. When I was going through my divorce, and we were also selling our house. I had this long list of things I had to declutter in order to sell the house. I just ended up wearing black yoga pants and watching Friends all day. I just couldn’t do it. I could not do one more thing. So, maybe you’re going through some life circumstances. The third thing I want to talk about is, potentially, you’re depressed. When I talk about those life circumstances, I really do think that’s what was going on with me, a case of situational depression. If you are suffering from depression, whether it’s situational, clinical, whatever it is, decluttering is going to be very hard, if you’re not also getting treatment for your depression.

 

Tonya – Definitely.

 

Kathi – I know that we get this question all the time, and we had one person come on recently, who said, “For six days, I haven’t done any decluttering.” I can understand that can be stuck. So, that’s probably more, “I’m overwhelmed personally.” Overwhelmed by life circumstances? Just look at what’s going on in your life. If that is really tough for you, maybe now is not the time to declutter. Or, if you have to declutter, ‘cause there are other pressures coming on, we’re going to give you some tools that you can do right now. Tonya, what would be the first thing you’d say to somebody if they’re overwhelmed personally, or by life decisions? What would you say is the first step they should take?

 

Tonya – Well, this is going to sound counterintuitive, but the number one step is, you have to be kind. You’ve got to be kind to yourself. I think we do ourselves no favors when we start spinning out of control in our heads about how lazy we are. We go into judgement and it just feeds that cycle. I used to tell people, “Just start. Open a drawer and just start with your drawer. Just get into action, ‘cause the sooner you’re into action, the better it is to maintain that momentum.” That is still true, but I think you have to start off with kindness. Don’t expect to finish the whole kitchen in a day. You have to set out with that loving expectation that that drawer is enough.

 

Kathi – It’s very punishing to say, “I made this mess over the past several years, but now I have to clean it all up today.”

 

Tonya – Right! Talking about situational depression and circumstances. As you know, due to some health concerns with one of my girls, we had to completely redo our pantry situation. We had to get all the food out of the house and we had to bring in totally new food. I remember, it took me a couple of weeks to think about planning to do it. I’d look at the pantry, and initially, this made me feel like a heartless mom, but I’d look and all I would see would be the money that had been spent to stock the pantry to where it was. Then I felt bad. “I’m a terrible mom. I care about money more than I care about my child’s health, blah blah blah.” Then, I’d be so exhausted over that mental exercise that I’d want to go take a nap.

 

Kathi – Right! I, one hundred percent, get that. I do.

 

Tonya – So, I had to emotionally overcome all of that guilt and go, “You know what? This isn’t about the past. This isn’t about the future.” ‘cause that’s the other place I went. “What if things change in a month and she can eat this food again?” Well, you know what? I’ve got right now. Then I started to get into action. I remember, I said, “I’m just going to tackle the top shelf.” I set a timer and in fifteen minutes, Kathi, because I’ve been living a clutter free life, I got through three shelves.

 

Kathi – Oh my, goodness. That’s amazing.

 

Tonya – My pantry is only four shelves and a drawer, so in fifteen minutes, I got the three shelves. I may as well finish it.

 

Kathi – Absolutely.

 

Tonya – Then I was so excited. Food is kept in about three places in my kitchen, so I’m like, “Well, let me just tackle the other two cabinets.” It was done in under an hour, and I felt so good.

 

Kathi – I love that. Don’t you feel that, when we get stuck in a rut, so often, we’re living in the past or the future?

 

Tonya – Yes.

 

Kathi – “I spent so much money on it.” Or “What if I could use this someday?” So there’s past thinking, there’s future thinking, and we’re completely ignoring the present. That’s why we keep things like the weird Japanese crackers that nobody is going to eat, but we spent money on them and it’s like, “Well, maybe, someday I’ll have a Japanese themed dinner.” Right? We do these mental aerobics to try to get to a place where we could say, “I could use this.” I don’t think many of us were raised by depression era parents, but we are living their lives over again. So, I love your first step. Be kind. Second of all, I’m going to be very self-serving here. Go join Clutter Free Academy on Facebook.

 

Tonya – Yes!

 

Kathi – One, you will start to get brainwashed, in the very best way.

 

Tonya – You know why else, Kathi, I will say to join Clutter Free Academy? If you can’t be kind to yourself, we’ll be kind to you, for you.

 

Kathi – It’s true. We will teach you to be kind to yourself. Lots of people don’t have any practice in that. It’s just so true. Here’s the other question I have. We’ve got Be Kind, Clutter Free Academy, Accountability. How has accountability been what you needed in your life, when it comes to getting unstuck?

 

Tonya – So, you know this, I’m a stunt person. That’s why I love your books. They’re short term challenges. They tell me what to do. They boss me around. I need that in my life. So, for me, there’s just something to be said for being able to, and I do this in our group, I love that our members do it, but take a picture. I took a picture of our kitchen table the other day. I work from my kitchen table now, and I’ve noticed that over the course of the day, I tend to pile up stuff to the right hand side. I’m a lefty.

 

Kathi – Oh, interesting.

 

Tonya – It looks horrible by the end of the day. What’ll happen is, I’ll tell myself, right, that I can do it later. By Friday, it’s a scary sight. But, I can post a picture and can say, “This is my mission for today.” Even if I get side tracked, in our community of ten thousand people, somebody over the course of the day is going to be, “Hey Tonya. How’s that going?

 

Kathi – Yes!

 

Tonya – And I go, “Oh, yeah! I was really passionate about that at four o’clock this morning. It’s 2pm. I forgot.” Then, what am I supposed to say? Am I supposed to pretend I’m not there? No. I’m like, “Oh, let me tidy this up really quick.” Snap another picture. “Hey, look what I did!”

 

Kathi – I love it so much. Yeah, accountability. There are two ways to use accountability. Motivation or shame. So, I don’t want you using it for shame. “If you see me on Facebook, throw tomatoes at me.” No! I don’t want that. Only have accountability with people who celebrate with you. Those are the people you want holding you accountable.

 

Tonya – Exactly.

 

Kathi – Yes. By the way, when you’re going through this and you realize, “I cannot declutter because I see the signs of depression.” And we’re going to put a link in the notes. “These are the signs of depression.” We want you to get help. I feel like so many people, the first time they realize that maybe they’re suffering from depression is when they look around their house and they see so much stuff piling up. If depression is the reason you are not able to take care of your clutter, one, know that you’re not alone. This is very common and it’s a very common telltale sign. Two, there are people who want to help and there are places that want to help, so we’ll link to some of those resources in there. If it’s because you’re just overwhelmed. I shouldn’t say ‘just’ because overwhelmed is overwhelmed, but there are steps. So, we want you to be kind to yourself. If you don’t know how to be kind to yourself, come join Clutter Free Academy. We’ll teach you how to be kind to yourself. Accountability. The last thing is, I want you to give yourself a reason to declutter. Do you want to have a peaceful home? Do you want to have a place where you can dance in your kitchen? Somebody was talking about that today. I love that. Do you want to be able to have friends over and be in community without having to overhaul your entire house? Give yourself a reason. Put a Post-it note up there. Keep yourself focused. Not a shaming reason, but a freedom reason. I love this, Tonya.

 

Tonya – Really quickly, do you know what I love about what you just said?

 

Kathi – What’s that?

 

Tonya – Well, you talk about giving yourself a reason. What it really comes down to is, you need to remind yourself, if you’ve forgotten, or inform yourself, if you don’t truly know, but: You deserve a clutter free life! I think when we get in that rut, we start to feel like we don’t deserve nice things. We don’t deserve a nice space. We don’t deserve peace in our home. That’s not true.

 

Kathi – That’s not true. Everybody deserves a place of peace, where they can lay their head at night. Absolutely. Tonya, thank you for coming on and sharing with me. I’m so excited about the rest of this month.

 

Tonya – Me too. I love the ‘how to’ series.

 

Kathi – Friends, thank you for joining us. I think you’re really going to love everything we’re talking about this month.  You’ve been listening to Clutter Free Academy. I’m Kathi Lipp with Tonya Kubo. Now, go create the clutter free life you were always intended to live.

 

 

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#405 Ready for Anything Week 4: 3 Months of Expenses (and How to Actually Save Up…)

#405 Ready for Anything Week 4: 3 Months of Expenses (and How to Actually Save Up…)

This week Kathi and her partner in crime and leader of the Clutter Free Academy Facebook Group, Tonya Kubo, are back in part four of this Ready for Anything series. Join in the discussion as they help us prepare our hearts for any crisis big or small by giving us three important goals and some creative ways to meet them. It’s a whole new world right now so let’s talk about how we can think ahead and take care of our future self. Let’s build up our resource library and get some “Grandma skills,” because we need those right now.

This episode will help you to:

  • Be prepared for anything
  • Discover creative ways to save money
  • Learn ways to help make emergency situations not be so stressful

 

Ready For Anything

Bad stuff happens all the time but this doesn’t mean we have to live in constant fear.

Ready for Anything: Preparing Your Heart and Home for Any Crisis Big or Small gives finite simple steps for being proactive rather than reactive—helping you prepare their mind, heart and home for any unfortunate circumstance. Full of stories and humor along with facts, tips and lists, Kathi offers a down-to-earth guide that will show you how to face the unexpected with confidence, relying on God’s strength and plan rather than giving in to fear and anxiety.

Her step-by-step plan is easy to implement and will help anyone become a better steward of their resources as well as be the neighbor who can help in a crisis rather than needing help themselves. Kathi’s goal is to equip you to be the front line of helpers in any crisis from a natural disaster to a friend’s job loss.

Pre-order your copy of Ready For Anything here.

Pre-Order Bonuses Include

    

  • A two-week meal plan, including shopping lists, freezer inventory and pantry inventory.
  • Five-day Homeschool Curriculum.
  • Our two-week course “Kickstart to Clutter Free.”
  • AND a curated set of sample chapters from the book, so that you can get started right now.

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Want to know what’s included in her bug out bag? Click here to download the list.

Check out Dave Ramsey financial information here https://www.daveramsey.com/

 

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Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo is the illustrious and fearless leader of Kathi Lipp’s Clutter Free Academy Facebook group and the Clutter Free for Life membership program. A speaker and writer, Tonya makes her home in the heart of California with her husband, Brian, their two spirited daughters, and one very tolerant cat. Visit her at www.tonyakubo.com.

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 Clutter Free Academy Podcast # 405

 Ready for Anything – Expenses

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Kathi – Well, hey friends. Welcome to Clutter Free Academy, where our heart is to help you take small, doable steps to live every day with less clutter and more life. I am here with my friend, my partner in crime. It’s Tonya Kubo. Hey, Tonya.

 

Tonya – Hey, Kathi!

 

Kathi – Okay, we are on Week Four of Ready for Anything: Preparing Your Heart and Home for Any Crisis, Big or Small. No, I do not have fortune telling gifts. If you hear kids in the background, it’s because this is real life.

 

Tonya – Thank you! I’m like, “Don’t talk!”

 

Kathi – You may hear a cat meow or a dog bark. This is just the world we live in now. Okay, can I just tell you, I have a friend whose husband went up to go to the bathroom and their kid, their three year old, I’ve heard a couple of situations like this, but I thought this was pretty funny, their three year old decided to get on the conference call with all of daddy’s friends, and entertain them. Yes. I’ve heard many stories. Pretty funny. This is just the new reality. I think we’re all going to be a lot more chill when this is done. Hey, we just have to do things a new way. Who thought Anderson Cooper would be broadcasting from his house? It’s just a whole new world, isn’t it friends? It’s interesting. We are in a time of crisis, obviously, here in the world. Not just in the United States. All over the world. We talk about 3-2-3 in Ready for Anything. I want you to be prepared 3-2-3. So, 3: If you had to leave your house for three days, would you have the medication? The clothes? Whatever you need? That’s your Bugout Bag. Then, 2: Two weeks of food, water, power. If you had to shelter in place like we’re having to do now, would you have everything you need? Finally, 3: Three months of basic expenses for you and your household. I think the last one is the one that freaks people out the most, even though it’s supposed to be what we’re doing. I want to talk about that today. I know we’re talking in a very tender time, right now. It was interesting. We had somebody stay in our AirBnB and they only stayed one day instead of two. Normally, you don’t give refunds for stuff like that, but I know that everybody is in tough circumstances, so we sent them a refund. They said, “This is awesome, because almost half the people who were staying at that AirBnB that weekend, just before this happened, either they or their husbands have lost their jobs.” So, it’s that kind of time. We are trying to keep payroll going for our small business. All of us who employ people with their side hustle, or this is their main hustle, but they’re also taking care of kids and stuff? It’s a tough time. So, I want to be sensitive to this, but I also want to speak in truth that this is a goal that we want to accomplish; to have a bit of a cushion when an emergency comes. I also want to say this loud and clear. If this was not your circumstance when all this hit, please do not feel ashamed. Do not feel bad. You are in a circumstance that most people are. That’s just the reality of it. We just want to help you for the next crisis, or the next thing that’s coming along. So, the first thing I want to do, when we talk about Ready for Anything, I give you two small goals. They may not feel small, depending on where you’re at, but they are two very achievable goals during normal times. That is, one: buy a water jug. We always need more water than we think we’re going to. Two: Save up one hundred one dollar bills. The reason I want you to have cash is, in case you have to pay someone that’s delivering something. Cash is often king. Also, it’s good to have money in a checking account or savings account, something that has a debit card attached to it, so you can pay for deliveries, you can pay for those kinds of things, but cash is also very important too. So, some of the ways we have done our hundred dollars? One, we didn’t eat out for a month. So, we took some of that money. Remember Throwback Thursday, when you could go out to dinner? That’s what we’re talking about here. Also, we had a change jar that we were saving up for a trip. We thought, “You know what? We need an emergency fund more than we need a trip right now.” So, that’s what we did. What are some of the things you have done to be able to put aside one hundred dollar bills, Tonya?

 

Tonya – For us, it’s Starbucks, right? ‘Cause two adults who work outside the home can en masse a whole lot of Starbucks if that’s what they do. We’ve done a whole month of not eating out at all. We’ve got a family of four, so that’s easily a hundred dollars, if not two hundred dollars. The other thing we have managed to do, is really just looked at true needs versus wants. So, things that have been very easy for us, at certain times, to do, is just running to the store for that one thing isn’t really that big a deal. It’s the twenty two things that I find along the way to find my just one thing?

 

Kathi – Ain’t it the truth? Yeah. You know, it’s interesting. For the longest time, we had Roger’s shirts laundered. I wanted him to look well-pressed when he went to work, not like someone who just rolled out of bed. Well, when times were just a little bit leaner, it was me ironing the shirts, which, by the way, I hate. But, I found a way to make it fun. I told myself, “I can watch any stupid TV I want, as long as I’m ironing a shirt.” I won’t even tell you what I watched. I don’t want to be embarrassed that way, but it’s things like that. What do I have at home that I can use instead of going to the store for the things I want? So, we would have what we called The Fat of the Land weeks, where we would just eat what was in the fridge and what was in the pantry, and just use all that up. So, I think that’s really good for your first hundred dollars. Your second goal is to save up a thousand dollars. A thousand dollars starts to open up all sorts of possibilities. This isn’t just for disasters. It’s for, when the dishwasher goes out. I use that example in the book, because when the dishwasher goes out, there’s a couple of things you can do. One, you can do dishes by hand for a while. That’s another thing I hate doing. Can we just say, I basically hate housework? But I do it. But, if you don’t have the money, you can hold off for a while. You can start to save up for the money. Or, if you have a thousand dollars, what you can do is a combination of these things. Over the next few weeks, we’re going to wash dishes by hand, but we’re also not going to go out to dinner. So, I can start saving up money so we can put it outside, so we can start to replenish that emergency fund, so as we order the dishwasher and we’re able to use that. So, thinking through these things, here’s something I like to remind myself and other people, “We’re more resilient than we think. We are more clever than we think. We are more resourceful than we think. We can do these things.” Then, the third goal, again guys, please hear me, I know this is not realistic for a lot of people right now. It’s just not. But, at some point your life is going to get back to normal, the money is going to start coming back in, because you’re going to be working hard. Here’s a beautiful thing: I want you to think about what you would need for three months of drastically reduced expenses. Here’s where I love how Ready for Anything interweaves everything: your Bugout Bag. You’ve got three days of food in your Bugout Bag. That, plus, if you’ve got two weeks of food at your house, that is 17 days where you can eat from home, and you don’t have to spend anything at the grocery store. So, I like to think about it that way. That’s almost three weeks of food that you don’t have to budget for in your drastically reduced expenses. I also want you to think about, “Hey! Is there a way to delay the mortgage during those first three months?” Is there something you can do? I know there’s a lot of programs going on right now that are mortgage or rent relief right now. So, if you’ve lost your job, it’s time to be checking in to those kinds of things. Also, do you have Netflix right now? Can I just tell you? Netflix is a sanity saver, and it’s not very expensive, but if one of us lost our job, that’s one of the first things I’d be looking at. It’s things like that. It’s the Starbucks fund. It’s the time to start realizing that I am more resourceful than I think I am. I can do hard things. We are going to get through this. So, Tonya, I’d love to hear some things that you’ve done. I know you’ve told me some things you’ve done in the short term, but you’ve done things in the long term, too, to be able reduce expenses, or increase your income.

 

Tonya – Lily, who’s now ten, was three weeks old when Brian lost his job. He got that pink slip the same day I signed final termination notice of my career, because I was going to be a stay at home mom. So we lived this life several years ago. We were not ready. Not only did we not have savings, we were so over our heads in debt. We had no concept of needs vs wants back then. So, having lived through that, having survived that has taught us so much. So, one thing for me, and this is not going to apply to all of our listeners now, but my emergency fund is an online only bank account. There is no ATM machine attached to that account. It’s not easy to get that money, because it’s not supposed to be.

 

Kathi – Right! You have to hide it from yourself.

 

Tonya – At the beginning, you know what our huge win was? The day that registration renewal came in the mail for our cars and we had that money. We had the money.

 

Kathi – You had the money. That’s amazing.

 

Tonya – It was an old, paid off car. It was a $183, but we had never had that much extra in one paycheck at one time before, but we had that because of our emergency fund. Our emergency fund stared off with, “Do we have $100 in cash in a sock drawer?” to “Do we have $500 in this account?” And for years, $500 was as high as we could go. So, long term, that money that goes into that bank account used to be, I was watching that bank balance all the time because this was coming out, that was coming out, but pretty soon, it’s like, “Oh, we probably have that in our emergency fund and can handle that.” Our dishwasher went out a month ago. We were able to cover it. You know?

 

Kathi – It’s a beautiful, beautiful thing.

 

Tonya – It is. Now is a situation, we’re very fortunate that Brian’s income isn’t affected by what’s going on, but let me tell you, I know exactly where I’d cut, and when I’d cut it. What I realized before is, I waited too long to make cuts.

 

Kathi – I totally get it.

 

Tonya – Stuck my head in the sand and said, “It’s all going to be fine. God will provide.”

 

Kathi – Well, you talked about your low financial point. Let me tell you mine, which didn’t involve anybody getting fired or having a baby or any of that stuff. It was just my own plain stupidity. So, I worked at Nordstrom and there were a pair of boots. They were an expensive pair of boots. I think they were $300. Right? What was I thinking? But I got a 20% discount!

 

Tonya – That’s what you were thinking!

 

Kathi – That was $60 off! I was so excited to come home and show my mom. While I was home that night, the person I bought my car from came and repossessed it, because I hadn’t been making payments. That’s as stupid as a human being can get. Right? So, yeah.

 

Tonya – At the same time, back then, I was getting my hair colored. Hindsight being 20/20, is that the choice I would have made?

 

Kathi – Right. I know. I know.

 

Tonya – Probably not.

 

Kathi – Look at where we’ve got in life. I cut Roger’s hair yesterday.

 

Tonya – I stopped coloring my hair two years ago. I don’t miss it one bit.

 

Kathi – It looks amazing. If I could stop coloring and it would look like yours, I would do it in a heartbeat. What we’re trying to say here, guys is, there are ways to make this so it’s not so stressful on you. I don’t want anybody to feel ashamed. I don’t want anybody to feel “Shoulda Woulda Coulda”. You know what? We’re all starting from day one. We’re at Quarantine Day 8 right now. We’re recording these in advance. There’s no shame. It’s just “What are we going to do from here?” That’s what I want for you guys. I think of those cans of tomatoes as money in the bank for me. It’s money I don’t have to spend on other things. That’s what I want for each and every one of you. So, I want you to get your 100 $1 bills. If that means you’re taking an extra three dollars out when you go to the grocery store and sticking it someplace? Then it’s there when you need it. Your second goal is a thousand dollars. So, major repairs, car repairs, things like that, you have. Even if you don’t have all the money for it? You have a head start on it. Your third goal is three months of drastically reduced expenses. So, I would look at that as, probably, what your normal expenses are, cut in half. So, what would you be able to live on, and get really smart? I’m going to tell you about two resources I love. Not everybody is a huge Dave Ramsey fan, but I think what he says makes sense, especially for those of us that are struggling. So, I look to his principles. The other thing that I love, there’s a book that I love. It was published in the 80s and 90s, but I love the principles of it. It’s called The Tightwad Gazette. It’s by Amy Dacyczyn and I just dug my copy out, and I’m going to be reading over it. It’s got all these Grandma Skills in it, and that’s what we need right now. We need the Grandma Skills. So, what is it that you need right now? I think this is really doable. Tonya, I’d like you to share some of the resources that we have for our listeners, to help them with some of these hard things, especially if they preorder the book.

 

Tonya – We are building up our resource library as fast as we possibly can. Right now, if you preorder Ready for Anything, and that’s if you preorder the eBook or you preorder the print addition. I know everybody has their preferences. It was just supposed to be a two week meal plan, but it’s really become a mini cookbook for Cooking in a Crisis. The idea is, lost job, whatever is happening, you have a two week go-to plan. It’s right there for you. Also, worksheets for your freezer, pantry and fridge inventory. You make smarter purchasing choices when you know what you have on hand. Then, we have some shopping lists. We have a 5-day, initially, it was a homeschool curriculum for emergency preparedness, but now it’s an all-family curriculum for emergency preparedness. So, 30 minutes a day over 5 days and you can just tackle some of the big projects that we have in the book, as a whole family. I think this is huge. When it’s a family affair, it’s so much less overwhelming. Then, our two-week eCourse Kickstart to Clutter Free. I think that one’s good, ‘cause something that I have realized is, I actually feel more at ease when I have less clutter, also, if I have something to do. I think that thing is to feel less helpless. I’m home, I have all this time on my hands, and I don’t know what to do with it. So, what I love about our two week eCourse, Kickstart to Clutter Free, and that retails for $49, it’s just a very quick, twenty minute project every single day. So, you’ve got something you can do. If you do it as a whole family, it’s another way to fill the time.

 

Kathi – It was interesting. I was meeting with a MOPS group today, after they watched all the stuff for Clutter Free Home. They were doing the curriculum that you and I created. We were talking about the UCL study that says, when there’s clutter, women are the most stressed out. It doesn’t affect the cortisol levels of men, but it does affect the cortisol levels of women. We need to really understand that clutter really does affect our stress. Especially since we’re indoors so much right now. We need to be on top of that. I love that we’ve been able to say, “We would love to be able to give this book away for free, but we’re just going to give you so much free stuff, so it’s going to seem like it’s free.” Which I love.

 

Tonya – More than anything, we’re just trying to be a resource.

 

Kathi – We want to be a resource – a sane resource in a lot of frightening stuff. That’s what we want to be for you guys. Tonya, thank you for giving up these four weeks to be with us. I so appreciate it.

 

Tonya – Thanks for having me. It’s been very helpful to dig through this. I really enjoyed it.

 

Kathi – I’m so glad. Friends, thank you for joining us. You’ve been listening to Clutter Free Academy. I’m Kathi Lipp. Now, go create the clutter free life you were always intended to live.

 

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#404 Ready for Anything Week 3: 2 Weeks of Food and Water and Your Inventory Plan

#404 Ready for Anything Week 3: 2 Weeks of Food and Water and Your Inventory Plan

This week, Kathi continues her four-part conversation with Tonya Kubo, leader of the Clutter Free Academy Facebook Group and all things, as they talk about being ready for anything. Today, Kathi and Tonya talk about preparing your pantry with two weeks of food, how to start with what you have on hand and create options. Let’s be honest; real food helps keep things normal when the rest of life is hard.

Listen in as they help us figure out our new normal during these unpredictable times of sheltering in place for weeks on end. Today you will learn about:

  • Thinking ahead and having an inventory plan
  • A working pantry and what to have on hand to stay in place for two weeks
  • The difference between being ready for anything and hard-core prepping

Ready For Anything

Bad stuff happens all the time but this doesn’t mean we have to live in constant fear.

Ready for Anything: Preparing Your Heart and Home for Any Crisis Big or Small gives finite simple steps for being proactive rather than reactive—helping you prepare their mind, heart and home for any unfortunate circumstance. Full of stories and humor along with facts, tips and lists, Kathi offers a down-to-earth guide that will show you how to face the unexpected with confidence, relying on God’s strength and plan rather than giving in to fear and anxiety.

Her step-by-step plan is easy to implement and will help anyone become a better steward of their resources as well as be the neighbor who can help in a crisis rather than needing help themselves. Kathi’s goal is to equip you to be the front line of helpers in any crisis from a natural disaster to a friend’s job loss.

Pre-order your copy of Ready For Anything here.

Pre-Order Bonuses Include:

  • A two-week meal plan, including shopping lists, freezer inventory and pantry inventory.
  • Five-day Homeschool Curriculum.
  • Our two-week course “Kickstart to Clutter Free.”
  • AND a curated set of sample chapters from the book, so that you can get started right now.

Pre-order your copy of Ready For Anything today.

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Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo

Tonya Kubo is the illustrious and fearless leader of Kathi Lipp’s Clutter Free Academy Facebook group and the Clutter Free for Life membership program. A speaker and writer, Tonya makes her home in the heart of California with her husband, Brian, their two spirited daughters, and one very tolerant cat. Visit her at www.tonyakubo.com.

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Clutter Free Academy Podcast # 404

 

Ready for Anything – Food

 

 

 

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Kathi – Well, hey friends. Welcome to Clutter Free Academy, where our goal is to help you take small, doable steps to live every day with less clutter and more life. Welcoming back to the program, my co-host, the leader of Clutter Free Academy and all things, Tonya Kubo. Hey, Tonya.

 

Tonya – Hey, Kathi.

 

Kathi – Oh my goodness, so, here we are talking about my book, Ready for Anything with the subtitle, Preparing Your Heart and Home for Any Crisis Big or Small. People have been calling me Sylvia Browne.

 

Tonya – I was like, “Wait! I know that name!” My childhood just came rushing back.

 

Kathi – She was, basically, a scam artist. She predicted the future. Apparently, she predicted a flu-like thing that was going to happen in 2020. Now, she died in 2013, so I would think you’d be able to predict your own death, too. Regardless, people are asking me how I predicted that this book needed to come out at this time. Let’s be clear. The word ‘pandemic’ never shows up in this book.

 

Tonya – There are a lot of things that don’t show up in this book. Pandemic. Stay-at-Home Order.

 

Kathi – Shelter-in-place. I do talk about if you have to be in your home for two weeks and that’s what we’re going to be talking about today.

 

Tonya – My favorite topic.

 

Kathi – Yes. There are many crises where you do have to shelter in place. You do have to be prepared not to leave your house. Now, for me, that’s usually being snowed in, which has already happened this week, by the way. We’ve already had to dig ourselves out of The Red House at one point. Now, people are like, “You went to The Red House?” Trust me. It’s the ultimate in social distancing. We don’t have to talk to anybody. We did not see another human being the whole time we were there, which is fine. What I want to talk about is, what we should have on hand. Is this hardcore prepping? What’s the difference between hardcore prepping and being ready for anything? So, the very first thing to be home for two weeks, you have to have a few things. You have to have two weeks’ worth of water. This is something people often forget, the whole water thing. They go to Costco and they buy their little water bottles, but if your water gets disrupted, you need about a gallon of water for every person in your house for every day you’re there. Plus you have pets. Now, it is kind of funny that Red Cross says that I need a gallon of water for each of my pets. The big pet I have is the cat who’s fourteen pounds. Then I have Moose who probably drinks a quarter cup of water a day. Maybe more. So, I don’t think I really need a gallon per pet per day. Maybe a gallon per pet every other day. Definitely a gallon per person because, not only are you drinking this water, you’re also cleaning up with it. You’re doing dishes, that kind of thing. So, a gallon per day is very realistic. Also, power. What’s your power going to look like? In California, we’ve had earthquakes, where our power has gone out for days, if not weeks. Do you have a barbeque you can grill on? Think about those things. Today I want to talk about two weeks’ worth of food. I think this is the thing that is, one, the most complex, and two, so important to our current situation. So, Tonya, how much food do you think you have on hand, right now?

 

Tonya – Well, I definitely have two weeks of food on hand, easily. Now, it might not be two weeks of food that everybody wants to eat, right? The first thing I did when I realized our ability to go out was going to be hampered was inventory my pantry, inventory my freezer, inventory my fridge.

 

Kathi – You have learned well, Grasshopper.

 

Tonya – I feel like the youngest Jedi. It serves two purposes. I think that it’s really important to bring this up for our listeners. The first thing it did was put me in a position of power. When the news came in that, “Hey, you need to stay at home. You can go grocery shopping, but who knows what you’re going to find when you get to the grocery store.” It’s very easy to spiral. So, I was like, “You know what? I should know what’s in my freezer outside and I should know what’s in here.” So, by looking at it, I was like, “Oh. We’re okay.” So, the first thing I was able to do after that was, we get meat delivered to our home. So, the first thing I was able to do was skip that delivery. This saved me money, but it also put meat out there for somebody who was not in the same position as me, to buy it.

 

Kathi – It’s so huge. It’s such a gift to be able to do that. Not one everybody was able to do. Here’s the thing. A lot of us were not stocked up with two weeks of food. You know me. I had plenty of stuff for a couple of reasons. One, I’m ready for anything, and two, we have guests who come to The Red House all the time, so we’re stocked up with food for that. So, between being at my mom’s house and what we had at The Red House, we’re going to be just fine for quite a while to come. I also know that it’s a little weird to try to stock up now. Like you said, you don’t know, necessarily, what’s at the store. You don’t have all of those things, necessarily, dialed in. So, I want to talk about “What do you do now?” So, Tonya already told you the first thing to do. Start with an inventory. See what you have right now. A lot of what you have, you can probably mix and match to create meals that you may not have thought of before. Now that you have your inventory, I want to talk about hardcore prepping vs Ready for Anything. So, if you on to prepping websites, and can I just be honest? I really don’t encourage people to go on to prepping websites. They can go down some deep, dark rabbit holes. I don’t think any of us are in a position where we need to be that desperate. A lot of those prepper websites are trying to scare you into buying large amounts of food. That’s not what you need to do. If you go to those websites, you may be convinced that you need to order thousands of dollars of food in specially sealed tubs. It really depends on your circumstances. I think that, for most of us, what we need to do is to always have, on hand, two weeks’ worth of food that is shelf stable. So, shelf stable means it’s going to be able to last a long time. It’s not going to deteriorate over a week or a couple of weeks. Tonya, tell me what your family does. For us, it’s a lot of things like stewed tomatoes, pasta, rice, canned meat, flavorings, salad dressings, those kinds of things. Salad dressings aren’t just for salads. They’re also marinades and things like that. What kind of shelf stable things have you stocked up on?

 

Tonya – So, my family really loves tuna.

 

Kathi – That’s good!

 

Tonya – The seasoned tunas are nice, right? Those give you variety. So, tuna, crackers are big on the shelf stable front. Other things are, quinoa, which is a little weird, but that’s what we do. We have a daughter that has food allergies, so I have a lot of weird flours and yeast to make my own bread and make crackers. Chips. We realized we get a lot of joy out of potato chips.

 

Kathi – For Roger, it’s corn chips. Those are his jam. So, I told you about a tuna thing and you said we have to share with our listeners.

 

Tonya – Yes! We fulfilled our promise. We shared that recipe two episodes ago. Let’s talk about that.

 

Kathi – Right, so this is my daughter’s boyfriend. You’ve got a little too much glee in your eye. We are not in the same room, guys. We’re on Zoom. She’s so excited about this. This is College Student Tuna Noodle Casserole. This is so funny. I can’t wait to share it with you guys. So, it’s a cup of Ramen noodles, but you don’t use the flavor packet. I thought that was really interesting. I had no idea. So, you can keep that flavor packet for something else. Don’t throw it away. You might want to use it for chicken soup, or something like that. Right? So, you just cook the noodles, and while you’re cooking the noodles, you make a little tuna salad. However you like the tuna salad. So, put some mayo in there. You could make tuna with some cream of celery soup. However you like to have tuna salad. Then what you do, you put the noodles into a bowl. You put the tuna on top and then you take a slice of American cheese and you heat that up in the microwave. My daughter’s boyfriend? This is his favorite food in the entire world. This is my gourmet suggestion for you and all of our listeners.

 

Tonya – So, first of all, I love creativity. When I worked at a newspaper, I was a copyeditor. There’s was a cookbook that used to float around about things you could make using the breakroom supplies. So, there was tomato soup made from ketchup packets. I mean, it was a whole thing. Cadillac Coffee, which was yesterday’s coffee, microwaved with cocoa mix. It was a whole thing. So, fun fact for our listeners: Growing up, we didn’t have a lot of money. My favorite meal was a meal that my mom was ashamed that, when I was an adult I would talk about it. It was a box of mac and cheese, (which our Canadian friends call Kraft Dinner) mixed with ground beef, a can of tomatoes or tomato sauce, depending on what you had, and a can of corn.

 

Kathi – I’ve heard of this before.

 

Tonya – To this day, seriously, I don’t eat any of that stuff anymore, right? But I have such happy memories as a kid of eating a bowl of that. My mom was like, “Do you remember when I put hotdogs in it?” And I’m like, “No, I only remember the ground beef, the canned corn and the little chunks of tomato.” It made me so happy. So, to hear about this tuna ramen casserole, it just brings me back to that. I think we, as parents, bringing us back to this topic, we think we have to do all these things perfectly. I think the greatest thing about preparing for food in a crisis is to realize it can be very simple.

 

Kathi – Well, and here’s the thing. Tell me if I’m wrong. Are you considered a Millennial or a Gen X-er?

 

Tonya – I’m too young to be a Gen X-er and too old to be a Millennial.

 

Kathi – Okay, we’re adopting you. Here’s the thing. The Gen X-ers, I’ve been watching all these things floating around about how this is our time. Like, we made the weird food combinations. My friend, Michael said, what he used to do is, he would put a slice of white bread, he’d put Quik powder on it, but a slice of American cheese, put more Quik powder on it, right?

 

Tonya – A chocolate and cheese sandwich. I’m dying.

 

Kathi – That sounds like the worst thing I’ve ever heard.

 

Tonya – My stomach just flipped.

 

Kathi – He said it was amazing. “Trust me.” I was like, “I am going to trust you because I’m not going to try it.” I think this is where our Gen X latchkey skills come in service really well. Hey, the Boomers have got it under control. The Millennials are the socially connected. As Gen X-ers, we’re going to get through no matter what happens. We all have our strengths. Okay, so, I want to continue with, how can you bulk up for two weeks’ worth of food? And why you should do this instead of going full on prepper. So, first of all, this is pretty inexpensive, comparatively, to do. Now, we do have some hardcore prepping food at our mountain house, because we could be stuck up there for a month. We could be stuck up there for longer than a month. So, we do have some hardcore prepping food, but, for the most part, we have stocked up on things when they’re already on sale. So, we love canned peaches. We love fresh peaches more, but we love canned peaches. So, when those go on sale, we can stock up on those. It’s just buying a little extra over time. So, I don’t want you to go to the store and empty the shelves. I want you to see what you already have. See what you need to complete it, and add a little more at a time. If you’re ordering off Amazon, here’s the beautiful thing, you can order those shelf stable things. You might not be able to get your lettuce and your green onions and things like that, but you can get your shelf stable stuff. So, you will be able to do this. Your store has a lot of shelf stable stuff, too. Second of all, you can buy this in bulk. I know your husband is a Costco guy.

 

Tonya – He loves himself a Costco trip.

 

Kathi – I get this. What I love about that is you can buy things in bulk. Check the prices, ‘cause Costco is not always the cheapest, but on shelf stable stuff, if you take half for now and you say, “Half of it we’re putting into our two week pantry.” You’ll use it up, you’ll go through it, but here’s the beautiful thing. You’re not buying weird food.

 

Tonya – Exactly. That’s something that you address in the book, that I think is very important. We’re talking about a working pantry. We’re not talking about buying two weeks of food and put it on the shelf for five years. It’s two weeks of food that you’re just always going to make sure you have that much on top of your regular use and you’re cycling through it.

 

Kathi – Yes, exactly. That’s point number three. Your family will actually eat this stuff. No no no! I bridged the topic. You brought us home, friend. If you’re stocking up on freeze dried scrambled eggs and your four year old is like, “You’re kidding me, right?” It’s not happening.

 

Tonya – That’s exactly what Abby would say.

 

Kathi – Exactly. So, you’re stocking up on things that your family already eats. You’ll want to have some family favorites and even a few comfort foods in the midst of emergency, especially if you’re going to be at home for an extended amount of time. My warning on that? Hide the snacks. It’s been so bad. We’re having to make other plans because you can’t go through all your snacks in the first week. That’s not okay.

 

Tonya – You can’t, and yet, why does that happen?

 

Kathi – I think we were all stressed out at the beginning. There will be other stress points, and we just need to figure out what our new normal is. Here’s the fourth thing. I think people are ready to go out and buy a bunch of prepackaged meals. You can do that, and especially for your Three Day Bugout Bag, you want to have some ready-to-eat things, but ingredients give you options. With ready-made meals, you’re eating what you’re eating, but if you have a lot of ingredients that you have bought in bulk that are shelf-stable? You’re going to be so set for long term power outage or job loss. You’ll be grateful that you have different combinations. This is why it’s so important to have a good spice selection, if you can. Start to build up your spice selection. You can have the same basic foods, but mix them up in different ways so that you’ll have things like Italian Night or Chinese Night or Mexican Night. Whatever it is, try new and fun things. You can have rice a million different ways, just by adding different spices to it. Here is, I feel, the most important point. Real food keeps things normal when the rest of life is hard. How have your kids responded to this being at home? I know Abby wants to go out and choose her own food.

 

Tonya – Yes. That’s really important to her. Initially, there’s just that habit of running out and just getting The Thing that has been hard to break. It was hard to not going out for dinner for Brian’s birthday which was last week. So, we ate leftovers. At the same time, they’re enjoying it. We’ve had pancakes a couple of times. Pancakes are typically a weekend food; a Sunday morning food, but everybody’s at home so we’ve had pancakes on a Wednesday. That’s great. Yesterday we had avocado toast and salad for lunch. I had this one head of lettuce and was like, “We better use it.” Lily was happy, I was happy. Brian had some tuna on the side. We’re having meals together more, which is really nice. I did do a whole week of comfort food. I made beef stew and jambalaya and I made fried rice. This week it was more, “Okay, we can’t keep eating like that.” Right? So, today is going to be fish and vegetables. I am fortunate. Our freezer is mostly meat and frozen vegetables. That’s just what we keep out there. So, we’ve got that to pull from. Really, I’m learning how to look ahead now. Groceries in my town, if I order today, I’m going to get those groceries six days from now. So, I’m not much thinking about what to eat now, I’m thinking about what to eat in six days. You know what? I can still make brownies. I can still make cookies. That’s what I’ve found is really important to the kids. If they can have a little treat. I made muffins the other day. Typical, everyday thing, but to them it feels a little special.

 

Kathi – Yeah, it’s just something to keep normal in the midst of all of this. Even a treat. So, to be able to say, “Okay, maybe the rest of the world feels like it’s out of control, but we have some control over what we can do.” Tonya, I want you to talk to them about the preorder bonuses for this book. It goes perfectly with what we’ve been talking about today, so could you tell everybody what those are about?

 

Tonya – Yes! I’m excited about them because they’re almost done, right? The publisher, knowing how important this topic is, has pushed the publication date up significantly. What I’m really excited about is the Two Week Crisis Cooking Plan. Anybody who preorders the book, whether they preorder the digital version or the print version, is going to get kind of a mini-cookbook that they download. It’s going to talk about everything that we’ve talked about in this episode, but it’s also going to give them recipes and a two-week meal plan to work from. It’s not going to be perfect. It’s not going to be for everyone.

 

Kathi – Hey, Tonya. This is what Kathi and Roger do, so I’m just downloading my family’s recipes and God bless you.

 

Tonya – And I threw in some of mine, right? I’m like, “Ooh! We really liked this last week. I’m going to put this in there.” That’s the beauty of downloads. You can just add to them. So, we’ve got that. We’ve got some inventory worksheets. What I realized, for me, I’m keeping things on a notepad and wouldn’t it be nice to have a nice worksheet to fill out with a freezer inventory, a fridge inventory, a pantry inventory that I can put in a page protector and tape to my freezer or put in my household binder. So we’ve got those coming. We also have shopping lists. Ideas. They’re in the book, too. The other thing I’m really excited about is, we’re working on this 5-day homeschool curriculum for emergency preparedness, ‘cause we thought, “Wouldn’t that be so useful for homeschooling families?” Newsflash: Everybody’s homeschooling. Now it’s, “Here’s your five-day family curriculum. Your whole family can do this.” We’ve got thirty minutes planned for you, every single day for five whole days. Just write your thank yous to KathiLipp.com. We take them all. Finally, we are giving away our eCourse Kickstart to Clutter Free. It’s something we sell for $49, but right now, everybody is looking for ways to occupy your time. We just want to make it easy. Everything is going to be there. Preorder the book and you get all of this immediately.

 

Kathi – Here’s the thing. We really just wanted to give this book away for free. We felt like everybody needed it. What we did was come up with enough stuff so it feels like you’re getting it for free. Exactly. Tonya, thanks so much for being on here. We’re going to talk about money next time, which I know is a really hard subject right now. I’m hoping we can offer a little hope, a few how-tos, some healing. You’ll learn from my mistakes, so that’s always fun.

 

Tonya – Awesome!

 

Kathi – You guys have been listening to Clutter Free Academy. I’m Kathi Lipp. Now, go create the clutter free life you were always intended to live.

 

 

 

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